LFC Vancouver Newsletter

You'll Never Walk Alone | Volume #3 - 07| 27 September 2007

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Comments/feedback/anything is always welcome. The email for the newsletter is Andy [at] lfcvancouver.com.

News and Notes

Liverpool Matches at the G Sport

LFC Vancouver will be meeting at the G Sport this week to watch:

Wednesday October 03 - Liverpool v Marseille at 11:45am and 7:00pm.

Sunday October 07 - Liverpool v Tottenham at 7:00am.


2007-2008 Membership

It is time for Vancouver reds to join the LFC Vancouver Supporters Club for the 2007-2008 season.

You will find the membership form here, so please send in a $20 cheque to:

LFC Vancouver,
P.O. Box 78045
3295 Coast Meridian Rd.
Port Coquitlam B.C. V3B 3N0


2007-2008 Squad Photo

The 2007-2008 Squad Photo has been released:

The Run Inn and LFC Vancouver Sponsorship

The Run Inn has reached an sponsorship deal with LFC Vancouver. The sponsorship deal allows all LFC Vancouver Members a 10% discount on all Run Inn merchandise. LFC Vancouver Member Chris Cole runs The Run Inn

The Run Inn has an account with Adidas and can order numerous LFC licenced goods. You can find the LFC Catalog here.

The Run Inn Kerrisdale has restocked its shelves in the current line of Adidas / LFC apparel:

In Stock NOW:

LFC Samba Shoe
LFC Adidas Rain Jacket
2007-2008 White Away Jersey
LFC Licence Tee (NEW)

Chris offers 10% off to all club members.

You can place an order with Chris Cole in person at LFC Vancouver matches, or by email at info [at] runinn.com.

The G Sports Bar and Grill:
Home of LFC Vancouver

Liverpool FC YouTube.com Video of the Week

Liverpool v Reading - Carling Cup Highlights.

You can send comments or LFC videos to the following email address.

YNWA/JFT 96,

Andy Neumann
Andy [at] lfcvancouver.com

Last Results

Reading 4 - Liverpool 2
(Attendance: 23,567)

Liverpool 0 - Birmingham 0
(Attendance: 44,215)

UPCOMING GAMES & EVENTS

Saturday September 29 - Wigan v Liverpool (Premier League),
TV Setanta 7:00am. LFC Vancouver venue The G Sport 6:00PM Replay.

Wednesday October 03 - Liverpool v Marseille (Champions League),
TV RDS and ESPN2 11:45am. LFC Vancouver venue The G Sport Live and 7:00pm tape delay.

Sunday October 07 - Liverpool v Tottenham (Premier League),
TV Fox Sports Canada 7:00am. LFC Vancouver venue The G Sport Live.

Saturday October 20 - Everton v Liverpool (Premier League),
TV Setanta 4:45am. LFC Vancouver venue The G Sport at 9:00am on Tape Delay.

Wednesday October 24 - Besiktas v Liverpool (Champions League),
TV TBA 11:45am. LFC Vancouver venue TBA.

Sunday October 28 - Liverpool v Arsenal (Premier League),
TV The Score 8:00am. LFC Vancouver venue The G Sport Live.

Saturday November 3 - Blackburn Rovers v Liverpool (Premier League),
TV Setanta 9:15am. LFC Vancouver venue The G Sport Live.

Tuesday November 06 - Liverpool v Besiktas (Champions League),
TV TBA 11:45am. LFC Vancouver venue TBA.

Saturday November 10 - Liverpool v Fulham (Premier League),
TV Setanta 9:145am. LFC Vancouver venue The G Sport Live.

Saturday November 24 - Newcastle United v Liverpool (Premier League),
TV Setanta 4:45am. LFC Vancouver venue The G Sport at 9:00am on Tape Delay.

Wednesday November 28 - Liverpool v FC Porto (Champions League),
TV TBA 11:45am. LFC Vancouver venue TBA.

When any of the match information above is updated, an email will be sent to notify all of you.


If you want to help in any way we'd appreciate it. We could use writers (weekly or occasional, anything is welcome) and sponsors as well. Also, just let us know what you'd like us to do as a supporter's club, what you'd expect. If you can commit a couple of hours a week we could always use the help.

If you can help out with the club in any way, let us know as we're happy to have helping hands.

Article - Time to Wake Up

By LFC Vancouver member Ste Speed, 23 September 07.

When the fixture list was announced before the start of this season I was over the moon. At the start of last season we had a string of tough away games all in a row. In a nice contrast, for this campaign we were handed a nice start with a series of games that we expected to win the majority of. I agree that an away match at Portsmouth is not ever going to be an easy game and a draw is a respectable result. However our performance in that game was absolutely dreadful and we never even looked like scoring until Torres came on near the end. In the home game against Birmingham City we were disgraceful and once again never looked like doing anything until Torres was brought on. This was a great chance to win with some style and put the games against Portsmouth and Porto behind us and get the season back on track. Unfortunately from what I witnessed it appeared that nobody had bothered to tell the players this.

Until the game against Birmingham City I had no idea that Stevie Wonder was working for Setanta. I’m referring to the fact they awarded Steven Gerrard the man of the match. Gerrard has been nowhere to be seen in a Liverpool shirt since he injured his toe before the international break. He looked good playing for England in the two Euro 2008 qualifiers but has looked way off since then. He played OK when he came off the bench at Portsmouth but against Porto and Birmingham City he didn’t really look interested. I have no idea whether his injury is still bothering him or if it’s just a dip in form but I hope that whatever is causing this goes away quickly.

I have no idea why Rafa decided to leave Fernando Torres on the bench for two Premier League matches in a row. He claimed on Saturday that it was a tactical decision but I have to wonder where he’s coming from. He said it was because we needed to play between the lines and “we brought on Fernando, but you could see how many times he got behind defenders – never. That's because there was no space”. That is not what I saw, it seemed to me that from the second Torres came on we were creating chances. Every time Torres got the ball you could feel everyone in the ground (and the pub) get excited as if they could sense something about to happen. He nearly scored with an overhead kick and was really causing the defence big problems. I understand that for the early kick-off at Portsmouth Rafa was trying not to tire out players who had been away with their national sides the previous Wednesday. Against Birmingham City however there was really no excuse for leaving out a player like Torres. Torres is a player who we have been crying out for and now that we have him we need to be using him to win these games. In my opinion if you spend twenty million pounds on one of the worlds best strikers he needs to be playing whenever he is fit. If Rafa is worried about him getting tired then he can always bring him off towards the end, by which time we may already be winning. Can you imagine the likes of Ian Rush or Robbie Fowler ever being left out in their prime?

I’m a big fan of Peter Crouch but I’m concerned about his current situation. After a good season last year in which he was our top scorer in all competitions, Crouch now appears to be fourth choice in the pecking order. He has only started one game in the Premier League this season, against Portsmouth, and he wasn’t especially good in that game. He’s rarely even been on the bench in other games with Andriy Voronin seeming to be getting the nod more often. His bad miss near the end of the match on Saturday will not have helped his confidence either. There is plenty of speculation as to whether he will put up with this situation for the remainder of the season. I personally feel he just needs to be patient as it’s still early in the season and if we can go on any cup runs we will need every player available. If the situation doesn’t improve for Crouch however, he may be allowed to leave in January if the right offer is forthcoming.

As the game dragged on against Birmingham City I was quite vocal in my feelings that it was heading for another bore draw. I know for a fact that I wasn’t the only person in the pub who was beginning to wonder about Rafa and why he makes certain decisions with the squad. One fella even went as far as to loudly say “Rafa is a w*nker”. I have no doubts that Rafa is the right man for Liverpool and I firmly believe that sooner rather than later he will lead us to the ultimate glory we all desire. But sometimes I would love to see inside his mind and find out why he makes certain decisions. However at the end of the day, the side we had out there was more than capable of hammering most opponents and Rafa can’t be held fully responsible for the lacklustre performance.

It is now time for the Liverpool squad to wake up and stop sleepwalking through matches that we should be winning or at the very least attempting to win. The players need to realise that if they don’t pull their fingers out right now they will be on the verge of throwing away a great chance to end eighteen years of hurt next May.

What do you think? Give Ste your comments at steSpeed [at] lfcvancouver.com.

Article - Ex Red of the Week – Volume 23:
Tommy Lawrence – Sweeper Keeper

By LFC Vancouver member Keith Perkins, 04 August 07.

Perhaps the most under-rated goalkeeper in the League during the sixties was our man Tommy Lawrence. For some unfathomable reason he was never considered to be among the top ‘keepers in the country, always to be mentioned way behind Gordon Banks (Leicester/Stoke), Peter Bonetti (Chelsea), and Alex Stepney (Manchester United). But, realising that Liverpool were one of the top clubs in the country during those years, and that Bill Shankly could have attracted any ‘keeper he wanted to sign for the club, the simple fact that Tommy Lawrence was the number one No. 1 for all those years speaks volumes about his ability and his value to Liverpool.

One of the most surprising facts about Tommy Lawrence is that he’s a Scottish International, but people are taken aback to hear that he has a Lancashire accent. Tommy was born in 1940 in Daily, Ayrshire up in Scotland, not far from Bill Shankly’s birthplace. His family moved down to Lancashire when he was just a youngster, and he was educated at Culcheth Secondary School. There might be something in the classroom air at that school, as it was also the school attended by Roger Hunt a year or two earlier. Roger’s brother Peter was Tommy’s best mate in those days, and it was no surprise that they would be playing together for local team Croft, where Tommy Lawrence was first spotted by a Liverpool scout.

After leaving school, Tommy Lawrence worked at Rylands, a wire factory in Warrington, while playing as an amateur for Warrington Town. He was offered a professional contract with Liverpool, in October 1957 just a few months after his 17th birthday, by manager Phil Taylor He soon made his debut for Liverpool A team against Manchester City. He gradually established himself as a reliable ‘keeper, and was more than ready when his chance finally came five years later in October of 1962. Liverpool were newly promoted that season, and first team ‘keeper Jim Furnell was out with an injury. It was not a dream debut as West Bromwich Albion won 1-0 on the day, but his performance was impressive enough for him to keep the No. 1 jersey with 35 appearances, including 6 in the FA Cup run to the semi-final (losing out 1-0 to Gordon Banks and Leicester City).

Liverpool finished in a respectable eighth place by the end of that first season back in the first division, and it was in no small way attributable to the stopping skills of Tommy Lawrence. The following season, 1963-64, was to be the beginning of a glorious era of success for Liverpool, and especially for Tommy Lawrence. He played in all but two League games that season, and also played in five cup ties. The season ended with a League Champions medal, which was clinched with a 5-0 win against Arsenal at Anfield. That performance was not just a feast of goals, but was also a showcase of Liverpool’s defensive strength, which included a penalty save for Lawrence against Arsenal’s George Eastham.

The next season, 1964-65, began with a sharing of the Charity Shield with West Ham. Liverpool struggled to maintain their form during the season, and finished disappointingly in seventh place, seventeen points behind Manchester United. But, the 1964-65 season will be remembered for the FA Cup. Tommy managed to gain revenge first against West Brom by beating them 2-1 away, and later by beating Leicester 1-0 in a replay in the quarter-final. The semi-final was a convincing 2-0 win over Chelsea, and Liverpool were feeling confident of victory at Wembley. It was a long match, with Liverpool finishing 2-1 winners, giving Tommy Lawrence his second major medal in as many seasons.

That was also Liverpool’s first season in Europe, where they went on an incredible run, beating Reyjkavik 11-1, Anderlecht 4-0, and Koln (after a tie-breaker and a coin toss), to reach the semi-final against Inter Milan. That match was memorable for all the wrong reasons, especially in the second leg where the referee allowed the ball to be kicked out of Lawrence’s hands for the second goal in a 3-0 loss.

The 1965-66 season kicked off as usual with the Charity Shield, and was once again shared – this time with defending League Champions Manchester United. The season was another demonstration of consistency, with Liverpool finishing in first place, six points clear of Leeds, ten points ahead of Manchester United in fourth place, and twenty points ahead of eleventh place Everton. That was Lawrence’s second League Champions medal in three seasons, and was achieved with Tommy Lawrence as an ever-present in goal, conceding the season’s lowest goals against of 34 (next lowest was Leeds with 39; while Manchester United conceded 59, and Everton let in nearly twice as many with 62).

Liverpool entered the European Cup Winners Cup competition for the 1965-66 season, and reached their first European final to face Borussia Dortmund at Hampden Park. Along the way they beat Juventus, Standard Liège, Honved, and Celtic. It would be a few years before they progressed that far in Europe again.

The 1966-67 season started with a bang as FA Cup winners Everton were shut out in a 1-0 win as Liverpool took the Charity Shield. Unfortunately, it was the only piece of silverware for that season as Liverpool seemingly went into decline with a disappointing fifth place finish in the League, a fifth round exit from the FA Cup, and a stunning exit from the European Cup following a 5-1 loss to Johan Cruyff’s Ajax in Amsterdam.

If there was a lack of consistency in the team’s performances over those seasons, it was definitely not due to Tommy Lawrence. In a twelve month period, from April 1966 to April 1967, he didn’t concede a goal at the Kop end. There was only one conceded during that time, and it was in a match when Tommy was sidelined with the ‘flu.

Tommy’s style of play was different to most other goalkeepers of that era. He played behind a mostly flat back four which tended to push forward as much as possible. That sometimes allowed a well timed penetrating pass to breach the last line of defence, giving a scoring opportunity to a quick forward with only the ‘keeper to beat. But even if that forward was Jimmy Greaves, or Denis Law, or others of that era, it was not so easy when Tommy Lawrence was in their way. His ability to react quickly to the danger, and his bravery in diving at the feet of onrushing forwards, set him apart from the rest. It’s amazing that with all the times that he came rushing out to make those stops that he wasn’t seriously injured. In all of his eight years of playing for Liverpool, he only missed a handful of games.

It was his tendency to come rushing out of his goal to stop an attack that caused Joe Mercer to comment, during the 1966 Charity Shield match, “He comes so far off his line he plays like an extra defender.” That led to the coining of the term “Sweeper Keeper” which is an accurate description of how Tommy Lawrence’s style of play fit into Liverpool’s. Another accurate description came with the affectionate nickname “The Flying Pig.” That was a reference to his physical size, which can be imagined when we see that at 5’ 11” and 14 stone (about 200 pounds) that he was not the stereotypical athletic figure (for example, Willie Stevenson was the same height, but weighed in at just under 12 stone, or about 165 pounds). The nickname is anything but an insult as it is more in reference to his quick movements in diving around the penalty area than a derogatory comment about his bulk. No matter what his physical appearance may be, his record of 133 clean sheets in 390 appearances is enough evidence of his ability. He had an uncanny understanding with fellow Scot Ron Yeats, and the two of them would control the penalty area with Yeats using his height to deal with crosses and Lawrence using his speed of movement to snuff out attacks on the ground. It was rare to see both players going for the same ball, and most attacks were stopped before they presented too much danger.

If it was strange that Tommy Lawrence was under-rated and dismissed by the “experts” of the day, it’s even stranger that with all the achievements and the medals earned during the mid sixties that Tommy was only capped three times for his country. The first came in June of 1963 in a friendly against Northern Ireland, and it’s a mystery as to why the other caps didn’t come until six years later in 1969.

In the summer of 1967, Bill Shankly signed a young goalkeeper from Scunthorpe who would eventually be Tommy’s replacement. That youngster was of course Ray Clemence, and he not only later replaced Lawrence, but went on to be the number one ‘keeper for more than ten years after. When Shankly convinced Clemence to sign for Liverpool, he told him that, “Tommy Lawrence is over the hill and past his best,” and that Ray would be in the first team within six months. But, as Clemence recalls, “When I got to Liverpool for pre-season after signing for them I found out that Tommy wasn’t over the hill and past his best. He was at the peak of his career and I had to wait two and a half years before getting a regular first team place. To underline the point, Tommy Lawrence claimed a first division record in the 1968-69 season by conceding only 24 goals in 42 games, a record that stood until beaten by Ray Clemence ten years later. Any goalkeeper that could keep Ray Clemence patiently waiting in the reserves must have been doing something right, and is perhaps the greatest tribute of all to Tommy Lawrence’s career.

The beginning of the end for many of Shankly’s sixties greats, including Lawrence, came in February 1970 when Liverpool were embarrassed by losing 1-0 to struggling second division Watford in the FA Cup. Tommy played one more match, fittingly against Manchester City, who were his very first opposition fourteen years earlier, in November of 1971. He then joined Tranmere Rovers on a free transfer, and played there for three years before a knee injury put an end to his professional career. Tommy tried his hand as a player coach with non-league Chorley for a year before returning to Rylands wire factory in Warrington as a quality controller until his retirement.

It’s often forgotten that Tommy Lawrence made a significant contribution to the Liverpool glory days of Shankly’s side of the 1960’s, but happily there are enough who do remember to have made him number 80 in the 100 Players Who Shook The Kop.

Video Clip:

80 - Tommy Lawrence

What do you think? Give Keith your comments at keith [at] lfcvancouver.com.

Contest Standings - Guess the Starting XI

Standings as of 27 September 07.

RankMemberPoints
1 Dennis 14
2 Ste 10
3 Pat 9
4 Kevin 8
5 Dan 4
6 Andy 2
7 Keith 1
7 Glenn 1
7 Luvdeep 1
10 Mark 0

To enter the members contest see the rules below.

Contest - Guess the Starting XI

RULES:

  • Only open to paid LFC Vancouver Members.
  • You list the names of the players you think will start the next LFC match.
  • You must submit your list to lfcvancouver [at] gmail.com at least 12 hours before kick-off.
  • This contest will include every match that LFC plays this season.
  • The member(s) that correctly guess the starting XI will be awarded 5 points.
  • At the end of the season the player with the most points will win the prize.
  • What is the prize? It is a surprise!
  • The standings will be included in each week’s newsletter.

Scoring System:

  • 11 Correct picks = 5 points.
  • 10 Correct picks = 3 points.
  • 9 Correct picks = 1 point.
  • 0-8 Correct picks = 0 points.
You can send comments or questions to the Andy [at] lfcvancouver.com.

YNWA/JFT 96,

Andy Neumann

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